This is the handout material from the course that I most recently taught at AU 2008, enjoy!
Existing surface data can come from a variety of sources, it can come from the Land Surveyor in the form of a COGO points, from an Aerial topo in the form of Contour data, from a DEM (Digital Elevation Model) file or even from Google Earth data. The focus of this course is to take data that was received from the Land Surveyor and turn it into a surface model that can be edited, labeled and used for engineering design. After we create our existing conditions and the designers create their finished surface model we will explore how to run volume calculations and thematic mapping for cut and fill areas.
One of the most common forms of data used to build a surface is COGO (Coordinate Geometry) point data. The data that we are working with to generate our surface is many thousands of existing ground spot shots. We have a limit of work line that we are going to work with to build our surface only within the limits of our work line. In order to accomplish this task we will be working with Civil 3D 2009 and using a Data Clip boundary
The steps that need to be taken in order to accomplish the above tasks are to create a new drawing starting with your company’s drawing template file that contains all of the necessary Object, Label, Table and Command Settings. Next you will need to create a new surface, give it a name and style; this can be done in your Prospector tab on your Toolspace right-click on Surfaces and select Create Surface. This will allow you to create a TIN surface, Name your surface and select an object style, see below:
Once you have created the “shell” for your surface we can then create a Data Clip boundary to limit the amount of data that we bring in for our surface, thus keeping our drawing file as small as possible. Please note that the Data Clip boundary must be added to your surface prior to adding any other data such as Point Files, Point Groups, Contours or Breaklines. The boundary line must also be drawn prior to creating the data clip; the command does not allow you to draw the polyline “on the fly”. Expand your surfaces collection à Expand Definition à Right-click on Boundaries and select Add, see below:
Once you have added your Data Clip boundary to your surface you can then import your data that you will build your surface from.
Now we are going to build our surface from point files that are stored in a separate location. This method will use the data in the external text to build your surface thus keeping your drawing file small by not importing the points directly into your drawing file. Under the Surfaces collection à Definition, right-click on Point files and select multiple point files by using the + with Shift and or Ctrl, see below:
Another way to build a surface in Civil 3D from Survey data is to import the text files directly into Civil 3D group your point data and build a surface out of points. In this next example we will import a PNEZD text file into Civil 3D, create point groups to organize our data and build our surface model out of our organized data.
We are going to start by importing our points directly into Civil 3D by going to the Points pull-down menu à Import/Export Points àImport Points. After your points are inserted into your drawing we can now create groups to isolate what data we want to use to build our surface. In fact, you can create point groups, save them into a template file and when you insert in your point data the groups will automatically populate with the points. In order to create a point group you need to head over to your Prospector tab, give the Point Groups collection a right-click and select New. Within the Point Group Properties dialog box on the Information tab you have the ability to give your group a name, assign a point object and point label style to your group. Next you need to select the Include tab to assign which point properties will be included in your group. You have the ability to create a point group out using Numbers, Elevations, Names, Raw Descriptions and Full Descriptions Matching (when using name or description matching you do not need to worry about case sensitive matching), see below:
After your points are grouped you can then create a surface and add your data to it. Follow the previous steps above to create a shell for your surface. Next you want to expand your Surface collection, expand Definition and right-click on Point Groups to add your newly created point groups to build your surface (you can use Shift and/or Ctrl to select more than one group at a time).
Now onto Surface Editing commands! After you have created your surface, view it as a TIN and Points you can put it in an Isometric view in order to find any spikes or erroneous TIN points. See picture below for points that will be edited:
Under the Definition area of the surface right-click on Edits to display all of the types of edits that can be made on your surface object.
For this particular surface we use the Modify Point surface editing tool to modify the two spikes shown in the picture above. Before modifying these points you must first either get with your Surveyor that collected your data to find out what the true existing elevations should have been or you can analyze your surface and interpolate what the elevations at these points should be. *Note: In order to use any of the Point edit surface tools your surface style MUST have TIN Points set to on.
Once you have your surface fully edited it is now time to add in your Contour Labels. You must first set your surface style to display the contours at the desired interval. Next you want to go to your Surfaces pull-down menu à Add Surface Labels à Add Surface Labels, in this dialog box we are going to use a label type of Contour – Multiple.
The great thing about the Add Labels dialog box is that it is consistent whether you are labeling a Surface, Pipes, Profiles or any of the Civil 3D Objects.
With the use of expressions and reference texts surface labels inside of Civil 3D can be extremely powerful in labeling TC-FL elevations. The use of expressions allows you to label the TC and subtract 0.5’ for the FL of a 6” curb. You can also label EG-FG information with the use of reference text adding a surface spot elevation for two surfaces included into one label. See below for the use of both expressions and reference text labels for a precise grading plan. Both of the labels used were surface spot elevation labels types.
After you have your existing and proposed surfaces there are many ways that we can run volume calculations in order to find out our import and export values. The first way to run volume calculations is in a tabular form. This will NOT create a volume based surface but it will enable you to see your cut/fill values. This method is also favored if you have more than one design alternative and want to determine which yields the least amount of cut/fill. In order to bring up this table based calculation method you must go to the Surfaces pull-down à Utilities à Volumes, see below:
The button highlighted in the upper left will allow you to add in a new volume entry into the table. Within the Composite Volumes table you have the ability to account for shrinkage or expansion from your Geo report by putting the appropriate values into the Cut and Fill Factor columns. *Note: This will only adjust your Cut (adjusted) and Fill (adjusted) values and will NOT affect your overall Net values.
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Melanie-
Love the idea on the TC-FL and FG-EG spot labels. It totally blows away my workaround wich was made up of two labels, one of which had an invisible leader that I would just drag under the other. Any thoughts on a retaining wall (top of wall, bottom of wall)?
Hi Rick,
With a retaining wall there would be two ways to accomplish this;
1. Using a expression for the difference in wall height from the surface and use spot elevation label
2. Use reference text for a spot elevation label if you had a surface from the top of wall and a separate one for the bottom of wall.
Make sense?
Cheers!!!
Yes, that makes sense, but what if you have one finish grade surface that has the retaining wall built into it, and that also has random heights on the wall. I won't be able to use an expression because of the changes in wall height and I won't be able to use reference text because it is one surface. Am I back to my old method?
Thanks,
rick
Yes, that makes sense, but what if you have one finish grade surface that has the retaining wall built into it, and that also has random heights on the wall. I won't be able to use an expression because of the changes in wall height and I won't be able to use reference text because it is one surface. Am I back to my old method?
Thanks,
rick
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